Like others on right here I feel they complement one another
Rapa knock off MTOR1…
TRT… activates MTOR2.
Helps kick begin each in an older physique.
PERSONALLY my enchancment is 75% rapa – 25% TRT.
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No offense, however I strongly really feel like you might be deceptive readers. You don’t have any goal method to asses which compound did what and figuring out what TRT is doing in aged individuals, I may as simply attribute 90% of your well-being on testosterone.
All people desires rapa to work wonders on them, so I get the bias, however should you step again, it’s simple to see that not every part is because of rapa.
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I’ve to agree with this.
@Agetron can be on a reasonably excessive TRT dose from reminiscence too (versus Attia’s advice of 100mg/wk)
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I imply, the arrogance certain is kicking in 
. Regardless agetron is clearly feeling nice. Kudos.
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Possibly. I simply learn it as his opinion/feeling in response to somebody asking instantly for that.
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Precisely – lol. It’s certainly 100% qualitiative. I’m double Dr. Attia’s advice of 100 mg I do 200 mg every week.
That mentioned, my perspective comes from being on TRT 200mg weekly for 3.5 years.
So I used to be dosing on TRT for absolutely 1 12 months plus earlier than even beginning rapamycin, and noting its have an effect on on my temper, physique and well being. And, it was actually vital for power and power and temper.
Nonetheless, the rapamycin was the sport changer for me. I began rising my power 15 -20 kilos each 4 months and after a latest 8-month lull, I simply upped my weights on all machines once more final month. I’m within the 165 – 175 kilos exercise mode 40 reps a number of units per machine. Legs within the 230 pound vary… I’m not a fitness center rat – each different day 1 our quarter-hour – I hate figuring out – however I do it religiously. LOL
Undoubtedly outlifitng a lot of the 20-30 12 months previous med college students considerably – who’re both at about half my carry to 50 kilos much less on the very same machines, So I really feel the rapamycin enhanced my lifing with the TRT for my part. I’m additionally extra shredded. My DEXA taken on Monday exhibits no fats wherever – within the Inexperienced at 65 years – not typical in line with the radiologist. She instructed me that even match guys (youthful than my age) usually have a number of hassle spots of fats – adipose tissue. My TRT good temper power has turned to 24/7 euphoria, pains, gone, pores and skin improved, listening to, imaginative and prescient – intercourse – all superb. So rapamycin get 75% and TRT will get 25% in my private expertise.
Began TRT kinda late (believed it could kill me primarily based on articles – a lot of which are actually proven as flawed) and rapamycin began even later. Would do each at 50 years if I used to be given a redo. However, content material sufficient the place I’m at. I’m nearly 65 years and passing for 50 years with most individuals and physicians. Adequate.
Dude, in fact you’re out lifting youthful guys… you’re on 200mg/wk of check
Ticking time bomb imo
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Nicely I’m a bit charged – have been for over 3-years. Hahaha .
My level was with rapamycin my power surpassed what I used to be in a position to do on TRT alone. The Combo is a stability of features rapamycin MTOR 1 and TRT MTOR 2 – to me use of each at a sure age is sensible. Possibly not at 40 however 50’s onwards.
As to time-bomb – complete screening blood – each three months. This 12 months coronary heart, bone, physique composition – labs on every part -. no well being points – no sickness. in analysis TRT is being fully re-evaluated as remedy in older males (with males we lose testosterone – ladies it’s estrogen). We had this – we want this – lack of it’ll age and weaken you. You possibly can see if you find yourself my age. TRT extra frequent then you definitely would assume – however as a consequence of judging – many are tremendous cautious in sharing or being trustworthy in its use.
I too was hesitant about sharing my TRT on right here – however we’re all studying kind one another. Not giving a full image isn’t going to assist anybody and may harm expectations.
If we’re each round… I plan to be…btw… let’s see what I’m pumping at 100 years – hmmmm that’s in 2057.
However you’re not on TRT you’re on steroids
TRT vs steroids from my understanding comes all the way down to objective. 200mg every week, if prescribed by your physician at agetron’s age is just not extraordinary. Bodybuilders making an attempt to realize muscle do significantly extra. It was my understanding that @Agetron is below his physician’s supervision, which implies he’s doing TRT. Why the tough judgement?
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No TRT is testosterone substitute. Whenever you’re on double the physiological dose (of a median 25 12 months previous), that’s steroids.
The presence of a health care provider is irrelevant. See Michele Ferrari et al…
How will you inform it was the rapa or the extended TRT utilization that took a while (1 12 months) to kick in or to see its precise and full results? Along with your logic, I may argue that’s the new pair of snickers that you just purchased on the identical time you began rapa, that’s on the root explanation for your progress explosion.
Do you get my level?
@Agetron what are your serum testosterone ranges whereas taking 200mg every week?
Individuals reply otherwise to dosage, the purpose is to get these ranges to mid ranges.
Pharmacology of testosterone substitute remedy preparations – PMC.
The accusation that he’s a ticking time bomb and on steroids and never TRT appears subjective. That’s all I’m getting at. Let’s let the #s determine, I’m certain @Agetron is keen to share his serum testosterone ranges? FYI, should you’re not comfy sharing it wouldn’t trouble me, however I’m !
