It will knock rapamycin down from quantity two to quantity 4 however I believe it is best to contemplate including combos. Rapa + acarbose, Rapa + Metformin.
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I buy mine from India and use GFJ, so my price is about 3 USD per week. That might be 156 USD per yr. Even much less if I take a month washout interval from time to time. So prices differ wildly between places.
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Issues are actually coming collectively on this picture. I just like the route you’re going with it.
It looks as if Canagliflozin is probably going the 4th compound (or 17 Alpha estradiol, however its very arduous to get).
For more information on Canagliflozin and Acarbose see our pages on every:
Acarbose: Acarbose – Particulars On One other Prime Anti-Growing older Drug
Canagliflozin: Canagliflozin – One other Prime Anti-aging Drug
17-Alpha Estradiol: 17-Alpha Estradiol – One other Prime Anti-Growing older Drug
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I’m very involved in 17A-Estradiol. It really works on a distinct pathway than Rapamycin, right? I’m hoping for a bigger add-on impact. Any concept when it could be commercially obtainable?
NOTE: NDGA is poisonous to people. DO NOT TAKE NDGA!
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Sure – it must be largely a brand new pathway, although it appears there may be seemingly some overlap – see this: Rapamycin, Acarbose and 17α-estradiol share frequent mechanisms regulating the MAPK pathways concerned in intracellular signaling and irritation | Immunity & Ageing | Full Textual content
I additionally am hoping for a bigger add-on impact. We’re maybe 3 to five years away from it turning into commercially obtainable as a novel drug; the one firm I’ve heard of that’s doing something with it’s Apollo ventures, and one in every of our discussion board members talked about right here that they’re nonetheless simply doing animal trials – so its a great distance away from FDA approval.
That stated, its simply the opposite model of Estradiol that’s already utilized by thousands and thousands of ladies (beta-estradiol), and my understanding that provided that in any manufacturing technique of estradiol there’ll seemingly be each variations of this chiral molecule included within the final product, so girls are already taking it of their common hormone therapy. In fact, the “alpha” model of the molecule hasn’t been trialed in males but, so formal scientific trials nonetheless have to be executed.
Sure – I checked out NDGA. It appeared fascinating, nevertheless it was pulled from the market a few years in the past as a result of human toxicity points.
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Sleep is clearly vital to staying wholesome, identical to respiration is. However I don’t suppose I’ve ever seen a scientific examine that exhibits that which you could enhance longevity with sleep.
Good sleep retains you alive longer since you’ll die with out it, identical to you’d have a depressing, brief life when you didn’t eat and breath correctly. However you’re not going so as to add years to your life by means of sleep.
I really feel like a number of folks on this discussion board are complicated “you’d be unhealthy with out this” and “you’ll enhance your pure lifespan with this.”
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Should you don’t suppose sleep provides to well being span and lifespan then it’s good to do extra analysis.
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Acerbose could be a very good candidate for the record.
I’ve heard of Alpha-ketoglutarate in several podcast however I’ve seen lifespan information on it but. Thanks for the research. My guess is that this compound isn’t in a spot to be classied as the most effective intervention we have now. However it could most likely be a compound to have in one other record. Let’s name that record for instance “Upcoming longevity future compounds to maintain an additional eye on” ![]()
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Very fascinating level! However the science {that a} mixture technique I might say isn’t that sturdy but. Extra research must be executed on this earlier than it may be certified to be finest intervention. Now it’s solely ITP which has proven this which is nice however it could be even higher to see it replicated in several species. Security profile and so forth. There’s a number of unknown elements right here. However very promising combo!
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Ah, nice useful diagram! Peter Attia did advised that Canoglflozin could be most likely higher at place third as an alternative of Acarbose. What do you consider that?
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Sure, 17A-estradiol is a fascinating one! Curious, what pathways are we taking about in relation to 17A-estradiol which differs from rapamycin? As a result of organic processes tend to enter one another.
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Attention-grabbing response from Peter. Lifespan enhance bigger in acarbose however sure extra good further well being information on canagliflozin. I defer to Peter on all issues medical.
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I’m not an knowledgeable on 17A, nevertheless it doesn’t have an effect on mtor the identical as rapamycin, right?
It seems 17A estradiol is obtainable commercially now beneath the title Alfatradiol. Model names Avicis, Avixis, and so forth… See article under.
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Excellent that you just raise this as a result of it’s little bit difficult one this. As you say we have to breathe additionally to have the ability to stay or eat energy or that we get vitamins and so forth. So sleep is a few type of pure primary interventions for longevity and the issues happen if we begin performing in opposition to are nature and get issues in our sleep. CR and Rapamycin are extra exterior interventions which we will add to our life on prime of the pure primary interventions. Difficult one this or what do you say?
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I’ve added it to the third place on the second to try it out if it suits there or not.
I don’t actually suppose it’s difficult.
If it’s one thing people gained’t die or develop into unhealthy with out, however that they can use to increase their lifespan, then it belongs on the record. (Rapamycin, calorie restriction, and so forth.)
If it’s one thing that people will die or develop into unhealthy with out, then it must be thought of “healthspan” stuff and doesn’t belong on the record. (Sleep, consuming, train, and so forth.)
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It’s additionally fairly intuitive if you consider it . . .
People have been round in our present type for tens of 1000’s of years. If there was one thing so simple as a sure form of meals or sleep habits that prolonged our most potential lifespan, then we might have figured this stuff out many 1000’s of years in the past.
The most potential lifespan for people hasn’t elevated with higher vitamin and healthcare; it’s simply the common lifespan that has elevated, as a result of extra individuals are getting nearer to the utmost potential age earlier than dying.
It was completely potential for folks to stay to be 100 years previous in historical occasions, so long as they didn’t die from childbirth /illness /wars /famine /etcetera first.
The stuff that belongs in your record are the issues that may enhance the utmost age that people could have the chance to stay to . . . in the event that they keep wholesome and don’t get eaten by a bear or one thing.
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Maybe 8 hours of sleep is overrated.
Although, rapamycin has elevated my sleep time and my sleep high quality.
“A brand new examine sleeping patterns in three conventional hunter-gatherer tribes suggests historical people had been simply as sleep-deprived as we’re, averaging a bit of beneath 6.5 hours of shut-eye each evening.” Really NOVEMBER 02, 2015
“In some methods, the sleep in these conventional human teams is extra much like sleep in industrial societies than has been assumed. They don’t sleep greater than most people in industrial societies”

