It relies upon in the event that they had been measuring pocket depths (vertical bone loss) or bone heights (horizontal bone loss). You will get bone regeneration of pockets simply by treating the infecting micro organism, however up to now, so far as I’ve seen, horizontal bone loss is everlasting except you add it surgically and even then it’s troublesome to get greater than a millimeter or two. If rapamycin might regenerate horizontal bone loss then that may certainly be an enormous recreation changer.
After I take a look at that CT I see bone regeneration as much as the extent of essentially the most coronal level of bone. However not a lot past. So to me that’s not sufficient to say it regenerates horizontal bone loss. It appears to me prefer it regenerates pockets. However possibly they should deal with for longer.
One of many remedies for horizontal bone loss is named a vertically repositioned flap. Mainly you reposition the gums down nearer to the bone degree to scale back pockets. It’s actually performed as a result of there’s no hope for rising horizontal bone as soon as it’s gone.
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Don’t get me improper. If we might regenerate vertical bone and likewise surgically scale back pocket depths earlier than the periodontitis is just too superior (enamel are cellular) then we might assist lots of people preserve their enamel longer and possibly in consequence reside longer lives.
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Simply spitballing, however a model of a whitening tray with a Rapamycin/DMSO primarily based viscous combine appears essentially the most logical possibility for residence use. In fact, in contrast to whitening merchandise, you need the product in your gums.
Anybody have any realized guess as to how usually, and for the way lengthy, you’d want to do that? If it had been 1-2x/week for 30-60 minutes, that may be a straightforward do for many everybody so long as the combination doesn’t irritate (no thought whether or not DMSO would irritate on this state of affairs).
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autophagy functioned as a defender to guard host cells in opposition to P. gingivalis
To the extent that rapamycin penetrates and is absorbed when utilized to the gums, I count on that the induction of autophagy and discount of irritation could be larger than for oral ingested rapamycin.
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I’m not skilled with these – however sure, that would appear to work and/or with toothpaste with rapamycin in it. Maybe additionally put the toothpaste within the tray.
No person is aware of the period/dose/response ranges – thats why the analysis is being performed.
Given what we noticed in one other thread on topical rapamycin and hair regrowth, I believe periodontal supply is effectively price pursuing.
@DyingSucks thought of utilizing a supply car like DSMO/Rapamycin (or different secure excipient) and whitening tray moulded enamel overlays is eminently doable. I’ve an previous tray set from a earlier standard intervention, may discover this. Maybe use the identical formulation for hair and enamel!
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The explanation you want an expert cleansing in case you have pockets >3mm is as a result of native treatment can not penetrate deeper than that. For native therapy of pockets there are particular chips that must be deposited within the pocket
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Not an knowledgeable, however I don’t contact enamel whitening (particularly OTC) attributable to some unknowns. I additionally don’t contact dental whitening. I’ll fortunately settle for that I’ll have some staining – has nothing to do with enamel well being. If something, the polyphenols that stain lower dental plaque accumulation so I can keep away from going to the dentists who X-ray far more than wanted (I personally solely go each 2 years primarily based on particular person threat elements).
Each single dentist I’ve been to to date received’t take heed to American Thyroid Assn skilled tips which reveals substantial thyroid most cancers dangers. (There are different dangers, that is simply the obvious one). Subsequently, I’m not satisfied many dentists actually care about my well being and even find out about these points, somewhat than simply attempting to invoice extra to justify their tools purchases.
AFAIK, the results in your enamel are cumulative, even with dental supervision. Can’t say for positive it might be mitigated by solely doing it each few years. Maybe somebody can chine in.
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“From a formulation standpoint, DMSO viscosity is much like water and DMSO can function a strategy to decrease formulation viscosity.
The addition of conventional thickening brokers (Carbopol®, Klucel®, Methocel®, Tylose®) is usually a strategy to enhance DMSO viscosity permitting for optimally designed dosage varieties.”
https://www.gaylordchemical.com/markets/prescribed drugs/
Another ideas car and thickening brokers?
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I appear to have no extra points with my early stage PD after taking pulsed-dose rapa for a number of years, now. No bleeding, ever, and I hate talking in absolutes, however I’m sure my gumline has grown in and not really feel gaps between tooth and gums. Was very noticeable. I’ve additionally been utilizing, for final 6 months, a selfmade methylene blue oral rinse that appears to have improved issues much more. I’m fairly happy to not be experiencing any discomfort anymore and hopefully a dentist go to will affirm enhancements. ( ADDING FOR FULL DISCLOSRE: I additionally started to make use of an electrical toothbrush a yr or two, in the past, in order that’s probably helped, as effectively. Fairly dramatic although, it doesn’t matter what)
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DSMO- I exploit to make my pores and skin cream works nice!
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RapAdmin, I’ll admit that I’ve not learn all the things on this matter. If I had I’d most likely know the reply to my query. How was the Rapamycin administered to the oral cavity of the mice within the “Rapamycin Rejuvenates Oral Well being in Growing older Mice” experiment? I envision somebody brushing their enamel with Rapamycin Toothpaste, however that doesn’t appear probably. Do you’ve gotten a solution?
Within the fist examine, it was simply common oral rapamycin consumption like most individuals right here do as we speak. This second examine us attempting to enhance on that with the rapamycin toothpaste and so forth.
My dentist took full X-ray final week he stated my gums seemed GREAT!
I made my very own rapa toothpaste and naturally take it orally so I don’t know which one helped?
Nonetheless I’m going to make it for some relations it is going to be attention-grabbing to see if oral toothpaste works with out inside treatment.
