The partnership of Robert Caro and Robert Gottlieb is fantastically anachronistic. As author and editor, respectively, they’ve collectively produced 4,888 pages over the course of fifty years, together with the multivolume, nonetheless unfinished saga that’s Caro’s biography of Lyndon Johnson. A long-lasting collaboration of this type is inconceivable to think about in at this time’s publishing world of fixed churn. Then there’s their technique: Caro places on a darkish go well with every single day, writes his drafts out in longhand, and copies them onto carbon paper utilizing his Smith Corona typewriter, after which Gottlieb marks them up with a pencil—like a few cobblers nonetheless making footwear with an axe. No matter deal Caro acquired from Gottlieb and Knopf within the Seventies, it has allowed him to work monastically on this biography undertaking seemingly with out some other supply of revenue. As Caro’s longtime agent, Lynn Nesbit, says of the association in Flip Each Web page, a brand new documentary about Caro and Gottlieb, “I doubt that it may ever occur once more.”
However there’s one thing else concerning the relationship that offers a glimpse into one other period: The 2 don’t appear to love one another all that a lot.
They bicker on a regular basis, about each comma, interval, and semicolon. Really, don’t even get them began on semicolons. Gottlieb refers to a “civil battle” that befell over the punctuation mark’s utilization. The flintiness about each little factor is a part of their shtick. “He does the work. I do the cleanup. Then we struggle,” Gottlieb says within the movie.
The documentary is the creation of Gottlieb’s daughter, Lizzie, who was all the time interested by this “mysterious relationship.” Though she grew up in a home stuffed with writers, she didn’t meet Caro till her father’s eightieth birthday—he and Caro don’t hang around. Caro was reluctant at first about collaborating within the film and did so solely on the situation that he by no means be interviewed in the identical room as Gottlieb. Advised this, Gottlieb wolfishly smiles, saying, “Who may blame him?” Walter Matthau and Jack Lemmon don’t have anything on these guys.
Many of the movie is propelled by the actuarial downside of whether or not Caro, 87, and Gottlieb, 91, will stay lengthy sufficient to complete the fifth and closing quantity of the Johnson biography. Their curmudgeonly perspective towards one another is offered as a quirk of character. Two previous males, perfectionists, set of their methods.
However the intense friction additionally defines their relationship. One in every of their first jobs, again within the Seventies, was chopping The Energy Dealer, Caro’s biography of Robert Moses, from an insane 1,050,000 phrases to a nonetheless fairly insane 700,000. They each describe the method as a grueling yearlong fight with numerous stalking out of rooms. “Wanting again at my life, I don’t assume something was tougher than that,” Caro says. There can be different battles, just like the one over an extended part on the historical past of grass in Texas Hill Nation, within the first quantity of the Johnson biography, that Gottlieb wished to chop—“an incredible battle, an offended, offended battle” is how Caro, who ended up on the dropping aspect, describes it. Gottlieb simply thought there have been too many phrases about grass: “It was not that I used to be attempting to tear his bleeding coronary heart out of his chest or out of his guide.” Different skirmishes have taken place over using particular phrases; the verb looms is a sore level.
Many of those fights appear to boil right down to a query of how a lot to belief the reader. The insecure author—a.ok.a. each author—worries that their concepts received’t come throughout clearly, so that they overcompensate. The editor’s job is to push again. As Gottlieb places it, “Bob all the time desires to be sure that the reader has actually acquired it. And I’ve possibly extra religion within the reader, as a result of that’s what I’m, a reader. I acquired it.”
Gottlieb is a legend, an editor who has labored with, amongst others, Toni Morrison and Joseph Heller (if not for Gottlieb’s intervention, he tells us, Catch-22 would have been Catch-18). The place Caro is all crystallized focus, sitting right down to a day within the sterile Johnson archive with an enormous smile on his face, Gottlieb is rangy and eccentric, displaying off his monumental assortment of plastic girls’s purses. The editor can be the extra voluble and philosophical of the 2. His work, Gottlieb says, is essentially “a service job,” however that doesn’t imply he’s “ego-less.” Quite the opposite: “You want a robust ego, as a result of there must be an equivalence of power.”
What feels most unusual about seeing these two circle one another like ageing boxers is the concept a guide may be born from an influence battle. We don’t actually take into consideration tradition like this anymore. Perhaps a combative collaboration of this type merely can’t exist in the identical manner it as soon as did, within the age of super-editors comparable to Gordon Lish—and generally, possibly that’s for the perfect. However the Gottlieb-Caro dynamic feeling like such an artifact doesn’t simply need to do with everybody being nicer now. The publishing business has modified in basic methods, changing into extra company and far much less keen to take dangers on troublesome writers and troublesome books. For a lot of editors (although not all), the job of competitively buying new titles takes up increasingly consideration, leaving much less room for precise modifying. A few of this work occurs earlier than a guide is even bought—by brokers fine-tuning a manuscript as they put together to market it, or by unbiased editors whom authors themselves have to rent. It’s protected to say that the times of an editor taking a yr to haggle over each comma with a author to allow them to lower a guide down by 350,000 phrases are over.
The preventing is just not the purpose, in fact. Beneath the simmering antagonism, what comes throughout is how a lot Gottlieb and Caro care. Behind the incessant back-and-forth is an obsessiveness about getting it proper. Right here is Gottlieb on Caro, although it might be vice versa: “The beauty of Bob can be the maddening factor about Bob. The whole lot is of complete significance—the primary chapter of the guide and a semicolon. They’re of equal significance, and he may be equally agency, robust, emotional, irrational about any of them. I’m like that too; it takes one to know one.”
My solely downside with Flip Each Web page is its ending. Lizzie Gottlieb lastly will get her shot: The Bobs conform to let her into the room to movie them as they sit over the manuscript pages collectively, every with a pencil in hand (although solely after a hilarious, telling few moments after they can’t discover an precise pencil within the Knopf workplaces). The scene is captured with out audio—as a result of it’s “non-public,” insists Caro—and is supposed to be candy, two pairs of liver-spotted fingers working collectively to the strains of Chet Baker’s “Do It the Onerous Method.” However it doesn’t really feel proper. I’d have most well-liked to observe them arm wrestling.

